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Default Bittersweet first month and my goals moving forward

The sweet part:

in the last month I can say that i've learned a LOT. Taking action was the hardest part but I forced myself to do it. I came into PPV not knowing squat (about ppv or even basic techie web stuff), and now I can throw up some sweet landing pages with audio and set up campaigns in no time.

I have launched about 100 campaigns to date (the last month or so), and have spent almost $1000 through Traffic Vance, and have recouped a little over half of it back, so all in all I made out pretty good. I know exactly where that other $500 was blown and probably won't make the same mistakes again this time around. Most of my losses were actually on 4 higher payout offers that required a bigger test budget than I had the balls for at the time, and that I had to cut early. So without those 4 I would probably be at about break even........Before I started PPV I had read threads where people claimed to have launched hundreds of campaigns and had no conversions. This scared me a little and made things seem more difficult than they actually were....... Just fyi I had conversions from the get go, meaning within my first few campaigns launched. Also my success ratio was about 1/5 profitable/break even campaigns, even with all of my mistakes and poor optimization skills (still learning). So I must be doing something right....... Also I promoted every type of offer imaginable, and made landing pages for everything. My most successful niche was email/zip submits. About 80% of my profits came from this niche.........

My advice to others just starting out would be to listen those successful posters on this forum and DIVE IN HEAD FIRST. It's only as difficult as you want it to be. In the beginning literally EVERY single task was MISERABLE. From setting up campaigns, to uploading landing pages, etc...... I hated every step but just chugged through it (always with my end goal in mind). I'm well past all of the technical barriers (tracking, landing pages, etc.) and can set up a full campaign in minutes now. All of that BS in the beginning is a distant memory, as I don't even think most of the steps anymore. Everything just comes so quickly now that I can focus on the important things......


Now for the bitter part:

something went wrong with my server today and me being the idiot I am, I didn't bother to back things up because I assumed that my host provider did it for me. Well, I lost ALL of my data and everything that was on CPV Lab......... So I basically have to start from scratch........ They tried to recover my data but most of the files were corrupted, so it was pretty much useless.

With that being said I am ready to move forward and get a fresh start. CPV Lab is up and running again and i'm ready to start launching again! Knowing what I know now, I will focus on one type of offer and make it work. Pick my niche and own it I guess...... My short term goal (3-6 months) is to generate somewhere in the neighborhood of $500-$1000 a day by mastering email and zip submits. I don't know how realistic this is but I've read where people have made much more than that per day and have accomplished the goal in less time, so I figure with some hard work I can make it happen. For the first time in years I actually enjoy the work that I am doing, even despite the initial technical barriers and learning curve; so i've decided to take on PPV FULL TIME for the next 10 months. I know email and zip submits aren't a long term solution to PPV, and I eventually want to promote higher payout offers in other niches, but right now I'm in love with this niche for some reason....... I think the fast paced nature and the cheap testing costs make it good to learn all of the steps needed to succeed in PPV (throwing up lots of campaigns, optimizing 24/7, etc).

I now have 10 months where will have no distractions and no other obligations to fulfill, so the pressure is on to work hard and succeed. Hopefully my future posts will share greater success stories. We'll see........
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Diablo,

Thanks for posting! You are a perfect example as to how to approach this business. The best form of learning is hands on, and no one has been doing more of this than you. You are well on your way to success! I am sorry to hear about your server crash, that really sucks. But seeing how you have handled everything in the past, you will be up and running and profitable in no time.

Keep us posted and let us know if there is anything we can do to help!

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DIVE IN HEAD FIRST. It's only as difficult as you want it to be.
Awesome job, Diablo!

Sorry to hear about your server -- it's so frustrating when that happens.

That's one of those unexpected challenges that always seems to happen along the path to reaching huge success. Seems like when we remove each bottleneck along the way, what's left is... some really nice rewards.

So true what you said about 'focus.' Staying focused is a big part of this game.

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So far, October has been disappointing in the profit sense, but my revenues have gone up. In July, August and September, I had about 3k revenue and 1k profit. This month, I really tried to ramp things up (i am only still doing this part time since I have a full time job) and I broke even with about 4K revenue and 0 profit. I have made some mistakes this month by riding out certain campaigns longer than I should have, but I guess you have to just keep testing and testing...
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Originally Posted by Diablo360 View Post
My most successful niche was email/zip submits. About 80% of my profits came from this niche.........
Hey Diablo,
Thanks for sharing your personal success and challenges. By the way, in your email/zip submits campaigns, did you have any payout guidelines or it didnt really matter whether it's only $1 or $10 and more?

I just started also with CPVLab and Im still on the learning cycle but it gave me better way to evaluate my campaigns.
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Originally Posted by reslynn View Post
Hey Diablo,
Thanks for sharing your personal success and challenges. By the way, in your email/zip submits campaigns, did you have any payout guidelines or it didnt really matter whether it's only $1 or $10 and more?

I just started also with CPVLab and Im still on the learning cycle but it gave me better way to evaluate my campaigns.
For my payout guidelines for email/zip submits, I would let the traffic run, and then if I didn't see any conversions after 2-3x the offer payout was spent, then I would kill the entire campaign. So usually if I got to around $3-$5 of losses, then I would kill a campaign. This was totally the WRONG approach however, and I wasted tons of money doing this. The reason is, a lot of my campaigns would have 100+ urls, and while there was always 1 or 2 url's that would eat up the offer payout amount, the majority of my losses for a campaign came from the combination of url's that only had 1-10 views. I broke the rule that was suggested by Particles, which said that you test each url to the offer payout price. This rule makes sense because why would anybody in their right mind kill url's that only have less than 20 views? By not testing properly I probably killed a lot of url's that would have converted......... This is another newb mistake, but one that is hard to avoid. But this was also a good exercise, because I realized that a lot of those "potentially converting" url's that had very little traffic are virtually useless to me.

From here on out I will focus on way fewer url's, and ones with WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more traffic. What's the point of bidding on url's that only get a few views? I don't ahve time for that anymore..... Volume is the name of the game in PPV. Slow and steady might finish the race and do okay, but it doesn't WIN the race. There is TONS of traffic out there, and I bet that all of it can convert in one way or another. I'm not wasting my time with slow traffic anymore.......

So what's my next step? Massive volume to my offers, more testing, more tweaking, and gathering massive amounts of data to LEARN from. This message is to the advertisers: BRING ON THE SCRUBS!!!!


and btw trikee01 - $4k in revenue at break even is an amazing goal, especially since you're doing this part time, and you've only been at it for a few months. At this point you know the mistakes your making, so now you can fix them...... Also listen to the pros and make sure that you test ALL of your url's to the offer payout price, otherwise you're wasting your money..... If it makes you more comfortable then test out fewer urls in the beginning, and then add more as you delete others. Also you can make up for less url's by driving MORE traffic to your offer by choosing higher trffic url's.

Good luck to all. Let's make some massive progress in the next month!

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Originally Posted trikee01 - I have made some mistakes this month by riding out certain campaigns longer than I should have, but I guess you have to just keep testing and testing...
So true.

We've all run campaigns longer than we should have, it's a part of learning this process.

I've had months where I hit breakeven, so what I basically purchased with my time was the data.

That data then helped me to make money the following month.

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So you don't care whether it's only paying $1 or $10 per conversion Diablo?
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Originally Posted by Diablo360 View Post

There is TONS of traffic out there, and I bet that all of it can convert in one way or another.
Good point.

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Originally Posted by reslynn View Post
So you don't care whether it's only paying $1 or $10 per conversion Diablo?
Nope. Not for right now at least. At this point my only concern is conversion rates and high epc's, so i'm sticking with email/zip submits for now. So that means offers that are in the $1.20-$1.60 range. My short term goal is to generate at least a few hundred dollars a day of income so that I can fund more expensive campaigns. I have at least a few thousand dollars I can use to learn with, but my reserve will be eaten up quickly if I start testing higher priced offers with a lot of volume. In theory email and zip submits should be a great place to begin successful PPV career because even the most unpopular offers still manage to reach out to a broader demographic than let's say a $100 bizopp offer.
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