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Old 02-06-2009, 11:13 PM
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Default Target URL For Order Page Is Too Long - How Do You Get Around This

Trying to set-up a few self-targeting order page campaigns using Clickbank products in Media Traffic. I have my affiliate links to the order pages all ready to go. I have my tracker set up with bait links (to get approval) and I have my tracker links placed as destination links in my campaigns.

So I get to the part where I need to specify my target URLs. BIG PROBLEM. target URL length is limited to 40 characters. What to do?
I can't imagine a redirect will work as a target, as your ad would only be triggered when the URL you are using to redirect is landed on by a user, which is pretty much useless.
I thought about splitting the URL and having two targets, one being the URL only and the other being the Query String only, but this does not work either since you would effectively be triggering your ad for EVERY Clickbank product due to the base URL being "ssl.clickbank.net/order/orderform.html".

So... Any thoughts to get around this?
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:41 PM
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Good points and good question.

I'd like to know how did you get your target order page to have your affiliate link.
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bobbyz View Post
I'd like to know how did you get your target order page to have your affiliate link.
I assume you're asking how to get your affiliate link on the order page for your destination link rather than the target.

Here is the general template for the link:
Code:
http://clickbank.net/sell.cgi?YOURAFFILIATEID_MERCHANTID/ITEM#/TITLE
The Merchant ID you get from your Hoplink:
Code:
http://YOURAFFILIATEID.MERCHANTID.hop.clickbank.net/
The other two items you get from the order page itself:
Code:
https://ssl.clickbank.net/order/orderform.html?time=1233964166&vvvv=66726565676f6f676c65&item=1&titl=Get_Google_Ads_FREE&vvar=&name=&emal=&ctry=&zipc=&
So lets say your ID is JoeAffiliate, the merchant ID is slimeball, the item# is 666 and the Title is fucking_awesome_ebook

The link would look like this:
Code:
http://clickbank.net/sell.cgi?JoeAffiliate_slimeball/666/fucking_awesome_ebook
To make sure your affiliate link is getting credited you can scroll down to the bottom of the order page and in the middle it will say "[affiliate = hopefully your ID]".
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:32 AM
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Thanks mate!

I didn't realize that the affiliate name is located at the bottom!

I've been running some long urls through traffic vance without getting any url length problems.
I'll try some fuck-off long cb url and let you know if it gets rejected.
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Ok I tried one with traffic vance and the long url won't take as a target.
I've even tried removing all the empty variables.

I'm thinking out loud here but I think this will work.

What if the product you were promoting was "how to be a wicked PPV Marketer"

How about bidding on the target:
titl=how to be a wicked PPV Marketer

The odds of you getting the order page are probably better than none
This is of course assuming that the order page will always display the title of the product in the querystring.

Whatcha think?

I think MT is broad match and I don't think they will reject you for self targeting urls since the whole url is not there.
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Old 02-08-2009, 01:12 PM
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Hey I have an update to this problem....

For the target....I've been hacking away at the ssl url and I am getting consistent results on getting the right page.

Example:

Let's assume you want to this to be the target:

Code:
https://ssl.clickbank.net/order/orderform.html?time=1234098531&vvvv=73706565646c6f7373&item=1&titl=Warp_Speed_Fat_Loss_System&vvar=detail%3DWarp_Speed_Fat_Loss_System%26&name=&emal=&ctry=&zipc=&
I have been hacking the line and left just this:

Code:
https://ssl.clickbank.net/order/orderform.html?time=1234098531&vvvv=73706565646c6f7373&item=1
If MT or TV still bitches that the url is too long then try removing the https:

Code:
ssl.clickbank.net/order/orderform.html?time=1234098531&vvvv=73706565646c6f7373&item=1
I think with MT you can probably get away with just the querystring:

Code:
?time=1234098531&vvvv=73706565646c6f7373&item=1
Of course better test for yourself as YMMV

Thanks!
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Still confused about this method.

Say we use Legit Online Jobs as an example and the link for one of their order buttons is http://1.legitonl.pay.clickbank.net/

Can I bid on the above (minus http://) and pop the ssl order page with my aff id ?
or do I have to bid on the encrypted ssl url (or part of it if it's too long)?

Going through different CB products I realized that the above link structure is not very common any more as many people have php redirect but I'm still curious if the above approach would work.

Speaking of php redirects, I'm getting that in those cases I have no choice but to bid on the ssl url (or part of it)?

Update: I put up 3 campaigns on Zango using the above method and all 3 got disapproved (at least I know their turnaround is fast ) ... anybody got this method working with Z? if so can you give an example of the setup?
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Zango are hot on self-targeting. Basically they won't approve it. They won't even approve a url if it is even partly like the offer url. For example, if you're bidding on domain.com and the offer url is bestdomain.com, they will disallow it because they say someone could just type domain.com by mistake when they really wanted to go to bestdomain.com themselves anyway.

I wouldn't even bother doing the bait and switch technique with Zango either. They seem to go back through campaigns that are running and disapprove anything that doesn't meet their terms, even after they've approved it initially.

You'd be better off popping competitor's order pages.

- Jill
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Old 07-23-2009, 11:37 AM
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Good points. Thanks. Will give it a shot.

Andrei

ps. ... now if I could only get on board with TV which seem not to mind month 2 method with CB
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You got approved by TV the other day...
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