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Old 06-13-2008, 04:18 PM
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Hi Coach,

Couple clarifying questions for you:

1. when targeting the order page url, do you pop the same order page as your 'ad'?

2. if #1 is yes, why won't every single campaign be a winner, as you would be setting your cookie every time a user w/adware buys the product?

3. The 'show true.com on eharmony.com's order page' tactic makes sense. is the intent to be creative in this way or is it basically to pop on the order page for independent affiliate company #1's order page and snag commission from the same site?

I LOVE the idea of targeting programs and products that are outside of the CPA networks. To be honest, the CPA networks feels a lot like crumbs off the table with 1000 dogs running around. Finding new tables hugely appeals to me.

The tactic/method is what i am trying to cement...

bear with me here...
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Old 06-13-2008, 07:25 PM
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To answer your questions:

1.) Yes I pop the order page directly.
2.) No because sometimes the natural reaction is to ignore the pop up window, or if it pops under it may be ignored too.
3.) The intent is to give them an alternative in this case.

I think you've got your head around it though...

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Old 06-13-2008, 08:35 PM
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Coach,

Thanks for the answers, very helpful.

One follow-up:

1. When you pop-up the order page(same as the target page), does your affiliate cookie only get set(counted) if they order through the pop-up window?

My original thinking was that the pop-up would set the cookie regardless of which order form was filled out, and thereby grab every commission(shady).

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Old 06-13-2008, 08:42 PM
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Hey B,

I am not sure if it would stuff the cookie or not. I don't think it would, as the pop up or under would load first, then the other page second. It's usually the last cookie that gets it, but can anyone else confirm this?
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the last cookie gets paid.

thats why so many affiliates ask you to clear your cookies before buying.

BLACKHAT

can ppv traffic be used to stuff cookies? anyone tried this?
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:07 AM
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One company im promoting keeps splitting the commision with another affiliate.

I get an email saying we dont know who made the sale so we split it with the other affiliate.

Im baffeld as to what is going on here..i can hardly contact the merchant cause im direct linking..HA HA

Im also finding there is ZERO traffic when you bid on the order page on some traffic networks all the traffic seems to go to the TLD

can ppv traffic be used to stuff cookies? anyone tried this?
Id be intrested in this COOKIE STUFFING, the code has gotta be clean or you are gonna get
ripped by the networks.

On the ppvf forum one of the guys was sayin that some guy got $50,000 taken of him cause they
found out he was cookie stuffing, you have to be really careful when doing this although there is
a shit load of money to be made if its done right.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:24 PM
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I've never cookie stuffed myself, but I hear the best guys are super careful and stuff only 1 in 20 pages. they mainly do ebay and amazon stuffing as 40% of internet users shop with those two. ebay of course are super hard now that they have their own affiliate program.
one guy I read about stuffed cookies for Harry Potter books just before its release and he picked up $10k the first week the book was released.
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I wouldn't touch cookie stuffing. They have too many ways to catch you and you will lose all your commissions and be banned from the network.

Not a good idea.
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isnt bidding on the checkout page with your affiliate URL the same thing as cookie stuffing?

Originally Posted by ppv-coach View Post
I wouldn't touch cookie stuffing. They have too many ways to catch you and you will lose all your commissions and be banned from the network.

Not a good idea.
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There is a fine line between cookie stuffing and this. Cookie stuffing involves using invisible pop ups to set cookies for multiple affiliate programs, (sometimes 10 to 50 cookies in one shot), on someones computer without them knowing it.

This is not true cookie stuffing in that:

1.) the pop up window is visible
2.) no other cookies are set outside the single merchants

Yes it is a gray area, but PPV in general is a gray area. This is a method used by quite a few people, but not talked about much. It's up to you whether you use it or not.
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