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Hi, I been promoting cpa offers with ppv for a month already and i lost a lot of money on ppv network. Recently i tried the RON traffic and gosh............i lost 90% of my balance...

I been making loss here and i really hope if there someone can guide to success with ppv and I'll be really appreciate it. I'm not a good website designer and i never make a landing page before. I can't understand the html coding.

So, can someone please help me out here.
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have you checked out the landing pages in the resources section? that's a good place to start if you're not interested in direct linking.

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Don't be discouraged. It can seem like a mystery until you find something that works. Definitely don't run a RON campaign for starters. Those are hard to make work. Also make sure you are setting up a campaign budget, so you don't go blowing through your balance on something that doesn't work. 2x-3x the payout of the offer is often enough to see if you are getting conversions. Make sure you are matching your audience to your offers (the people seeing your ads need to be predisposed to being at least somewhat interested in your offer). Try running offers that only require a lead like email and zip submits. I keep trying to run offers that require a sale and they are not panning out for me. But people seem to be a little more open to giving out just an email address or some basic info. What network are you running your traffic through? You might want to try another network to see if you have any more success. Best of luck and let us know how you progress.

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have you checked out the landing pages in the resources section? that's a good place to start if you're not interested in direct linking.

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Thanks for replying me, I did checked out the landing pages and downloaded it. There are one landing page that build for people to put in their email. Well, am i suppose to use auto-responder to link to the email box? Can i make the landing page that people put in their email and redirect them to the cpa offer and their email will be already inside the email box of the cpa offers? Hope you understand what i am trying to describe. I not good with html coding stuff. Hope you have a better suggestion.

If can i prefer direct linking but i hardly get conversion and sometimes no traffic at all with 500 urls to 1000 urls that i bidded on.

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Don't be discouraged. It can seem like a mystery until you find something that works. Definitely don't run a RON campaign for starters. Those are hard to make work. Also make sure you are setting up a campaign budget, so you don't go blowing through your balance on something that doesn't work. 2x-3x the payout of the offer is often enough to see if you are getting conversions. Make sure you are matching your audience to your offers (the people seeing your ads need to be predisposed to being at least somewhat interested in your offer). Try running offers that only require a lead like email and zip submits. I keep trying to run offers that require a sale and they are not panning out for me. But people seem to be a little more open to giving out just an email address or some basic info. What network are you running your traffic through? You might want to try another network to see if you have any more success. Best of luck and let us know how you progress.

Cheers,
Josh.
I am running email submit and short form leads for all my campaigns. I scrape the urls from the resources given and i also find urls from quantcast. But i really don't know how to analyze all the demographics. Do you suggest me to build a landing page or direct linking? If build a landing page i know that i need to build it similar with the offer and that's kind of frustrated me. I learning how to build with kompozer but it is ugly and nothing much like the offers landing page.

Currently i'm running my offers with directcpv. I used $145 to earn $36 from peerfly and $18 from getads. And now all the campaign like dead... I making a loss here. Do you think i should go for adon network? The deposit was $50 (I don't have much budget left). Or should i go for facebook ppc or pof ppc? Or even media buys? I got lots of resource but i don't dare to try. I wanted to concentrate on ppv first and have a success then only go for other method.

Hope i'm not get you bored with my noobs questions.

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Don't give up...
PPV is hard... but it pays out at the end.

I personally have been one of the lucky ones to not lose money at the
beginning... but I read everywhere that people lose a lot of money when doing
ppv....

You need to track...
you need to track your leads and your money...

pm me if you need a bit of one on one guidance.....

I am pretty new but still... i have made some money with ppv.
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That's good that you have made over a third of your money back. Those are probably good URL's you just need to work on increase the conversion rate. Keep using a landing page. Analyze your click-thru rate to the offer page... if you don't have many clicks but you are still getting some conversions, then you need to tweak your landing page. If you aren't getting any clicks or conversions the offer might not be suited to your targets. If you are getting lots of clicks but few conversions, it could be the offer page or your landing page so split test both starting with rotating the offers. Be sure to pause or delete the URL's that aren't giving you conversions.

A note on budgeting: Make sure you set up total campaign spends so that you only test each target with a small amount of money just to get some data to analyze your click-thrus (CTR) and Conversions (CVR) and pick a split test winner. Then do some more split testing in quick spurts of small budgets until you have the campaign optimized. Then you can start upping the daily spend and see how it does with more budget.

I know DirectCPV is not always very highly regarded, but there are definitely people making money with it so you might want to stick it out and see how you do until you can save enough budget for Lead Impact or Traffic Vance. AdOn is an option that I haven't explored yet, but some people are making money on there too, so it's all about testing. As for the design of your landing page, it often helps if it is designed similar to the landing page, but it isn't a must. Just use a clean lander and write some good ad copy to pre-sell them on the offer.

I agree, it's hard. I have lots of campaigns that didn't work and others that are almost profitable that I am trying to improve. Just takes a lot of time up front, but when something works it pays for all the non-profitable testing (well, that's the idea anyway).

Good luck and cheers!
Josh.
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Originally Posted by vern0211 View Post
Thanks for replying me, I did checked out the landing pages and downloaded it. There are one landing page that build for people to put in their email. Well, am i suppose to use auto-responder to link to the email box? Can i make the landing page that people put in their email and redirect them to the cpa offer and their email will be already inside the email box of the cpa offers? Hope you understand what i am trying to describe. I not good with html coding stuff. Hope you have a better suggestion.

If can i prefer direct linking but i hardly get conversion and sometimes no traffic at all with 500 urls to 1000 urls that i bidded on.

Alvern



I am running email submit and short form leads for all my campaigns. I scrape the urls from the resources given and i also find urls from quantcast. But i really don't know how to analyze all the demographics. Do you suggest me to build a landing page or direct linking? If build a landing page i know that i need to build it similar with the offer and that's kind of frustrated me. I learning how to build with kompozer but it is ugly and nothing much like the offers landing page.

Currently i'm running my offers with directcpv. I used $145 to earn $36 from peerfly and $18 from getads. And now all the campaign like dead... I making a loss here. Do you think i should go for adon network? The deposit was $50 (I don't have much budget left). Or should i go for facebook ppc or pof ppc? Or even media buys? I got lots of resource but i don't dare to try. I wanted to concentrate on ppv first and have a success then only go for other method.

Hope i'm not get you bored with my noobs questions.

Thanks
Personally I think it's hard to make email submits work with real traffic on PPV, especially RON. Possible with Keyword / URL targeting but tough to get any scale. any other opinions on this?

I work for AdOn Network and would be happy to discuss options with you.
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Email submits will work, but definitely not on RON. Try something that is much more targeted. Also, don't just direct link. Learn how to build landing pages and get creative.
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Originally Posted by trafficman View Post
Personally I think it's hard to make email submits work with real traffic on PPV, especially RON. Possible with Keyword / URL targeting but tough to get any scale. any other opinions on this?

I work for AdOn Network and would be happy to discuss options with you.
Is Adon network better? Can i know what type of offers that you are promoting? I make money with email submit so far just i am making loss.
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Don't give up...
PPV is hard... but it pays out at the end.

I personally have been one of the lucky ones to not lose money at the
beginning... but I read everywhere that people lose a lot of money when doing
ppv....

You need to track...
you need to track your leads and your money...

pm me if you need a bit of one on one guidance.....

I am pretty new but still... i have made some money with ppv.
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