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Old 06-03-2010, 11:34 PM
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Default What's Your #1 Question About...

CPV?

Some understand how to make it work, others have questions. I've received several pm's and I'm glad to be of help to anyone that asks.

Let's post your top questions in this thread so that it can become a resource for anyone that might get stuck.

So list your #1 question here and let's see what we come up with...

-Aaron
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Old 06-05-2010, 05:48 AM
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Default How To Create 10 Campaigns a day and still profit?

I know the above sounds funny. However, despite the fact that everyone says throwing up 10 campaigns a day is key, I have difficulties profiting then. It appears to be that if I create constantly 10 campaigns a day then those testing campaigns are really eating up all my profits from my other campaigns.

What might be the solution to the problem?
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Old 06-05-2010, 08:25 PM
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Hi Vincent,

In regards to your question of
How To Create 10 Campaigns a day and still profit
it seems to be a matter of gathering enough data quickly while rapidly killing campaigns that aren't working.

So with that said, here's what I do.

I look for offers that are already doing well for the CPA network. Hopefully your AM will give good advice (hopefully) and let you know what offers perform well. Sometimes epc data can help give you general guidelines as to which offers are performing.

Select 10-15 offers and look at the merchant's page. Look for offers that pay $5 or more. Decide on direct linking or making your own lander.

Do some competitive research and look for highly related url targets to your offers. I'll have 10-50 targets in a campaign.

Create 10 campaigns. Set your daily budget for $20. Turn the campaign on.

Let it run a day and see what urls eat up your budget.

If the offer pays $10 commission and a url target eats up $10 without a conversion, then kill that target. Try to let all the targets get up to $10 of traffic, however, if you hit $60-100 total for the campaign and without a conversion, then kill the entire campaign and move on.

Your job is to gather enough data to see if anything works, but not spend so much that all you do is lose money in the process without getting some sales.

If you get one target making a conversion, let it run for a while and see if it keeps making conversions. You might wind up with only one or two targets making conversions, and the rest of the targets are deleted from that campaign.

If you have targets that get a little traffic but don't make any conversions after 2-4 weeks, then I eliminate those targets and my roi is better overall.

Once you have some profitable targets that are making conversions, then you raise your daily budget to an amount you are comfortable with ($50/day, $100/day, $1,000/day).

Out of every 20 campaigns you create, you might get one or two that do well. Because I've been doing this for a long time, that number is about 1 in 4 campaigns are profitable. Some probably do even better.

Hope this helps,

Aaron
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:00 AM
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People online want to make a lot of money, but sometimes they don't want to put any time into it.

I always joke with my wife that if I spent a solid 8 hours during the day actually working on something straight through, I'd have 20,000 campaigns going by now. The truth is I do work a lot, but I don't spend 8 hours straight doing it. Imagine if anyone took CPV as though it were a full time job with 40 hours per week.

They'd be millionaires within a month.
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Hmm...i am actually spending more than 40 hours/ week for months now....and I am not making much money, so I must be doing somethign wrong....

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Default 2nd Question: Speed of Urls

What I noticed is a lot of my campaigns have even more than 10-50 urls, but they all get very little traffic. They have some "green bar" in TV, but usually just a little.

My question is. what is your norm? How fast are your targets/ campaigns normally to reach 1x payout? Most of my campaigns are like this: I set up 20-50 urls and they need weeks/months in total (not one url) to reach the payout.... am I targetting too small urls? Or would I need to increase the number of urls? What kind of impression numbers should a url have?
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:21 PM
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I usually know something within 3 to 4 days. I'll either get a conversion or two, or I'll spend money quickly on high volume targets.

Low traffic can be from low traffic targets or not bidding high enough on the targets you're using.

Sometimes you have to just jump in and take number 1 spot and see if you get traffic with conversions.

With that said, I like to jump into #1 bid (or tie for #1) if the target is up to $0.30 cpv or lower. With bid costs higher than $0.30, it can get expensive to separate those converting targets from the non-performing ones.

If a campaign is getting low traffic due to low traffic targets, add more offers and campaigns and keep testing.

If a campaign doesn't produce a conversion with 2 weeks, then delete it and add more campaigns for different offers.

-Aaron
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Originally Posted by particles View Post

If a campaign is getting low traffic due to low traffic targets, add more offers and campaigns and keep testing.

-Aaron
you did mean add more offeres and campaigns, not targets, right?
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:45 AM
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Yes...

Test more offers and make more campaigns and get those traffic numbers up so you can start gathering more data.

Based on our conversations and some of your conversion numbers, sounds like you are on your way... if I can breakeven within the first $100 in ad spend or even get $50 for the first $100 spent, I can usually find a couple winning targets in that campaign and it will eventually become profitable.

-Aaron
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Aaron those are very helpful numbers. I have been dabbling along with too many small campaigns (zips and emails stuff like that) and made that profitable, too, but it's just not worth all the effort and micromanaging.

I am looking forward to bigger campaigns :-)
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