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Old 03-25-2010, 01:03 PM
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Okay, around 100 campaigns are out for my first 3 weeks? of CPV. 7 of them are profitable. So, 1 in 14.

I am a slight loss, but wondering what I need to do in order to reach the next level. I have been doing all kinds of offers. The highest conversion was at $18 and the lowest a email submit at $1.20.

All my camps are direct linking using TV.

Spent is $317 and I got around 300 back. Most campaigns are 5-10 urls.

For those that are making a profit, I have problems to scale them. They make very small numbers. I try to find similar urls by using quantcast, but as soon as I do, I make the camp unprofitable. How many urls do you normally input when scaling a camp? do you mostly go into the negative again?

What I try to do is to duplicate the winning campaign with just urls that are working. that way, i get just a little bit more traffic. But that's all about what I can do at the moment. suggestions?

But also my question is: what type of offers do work well with cpv and direct linking? Is it that just small type of forms or email submits work with direct linking and anything that goes beyond $20 payout mostly requires a landing page? what is your experience? As said, I only made the highest commission at $18 payout. But I have quite a lot of campaigns that are $33 etc.

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Old 03-26-2010, 03:45 AM
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What coach says at this level is to keep the profitable ones "as is" for now to generate income, and just keep trying more campaigns. Be like Harry and put out 22 campaigns a day (I need to do that also).

If you have some that aren't profitable, try to optimize them by cutting out the unprofitable URLs. Sometimes "optimizing" will mean you cut out all the URLs. Just move on at that point. If you have some that aren't profitable, but aren't able to be optimized yet (lack of data) just pause them for now unless you can afford to let them run.
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:53 PM
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But how do you balance being like harry building 22 camps and actually profiting with the camps that work. I mean, I am running negative even though I have some profitable campaigns.... what to do?
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Old 03-26-2010, 10:21 PM
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This is just my idea... Try splitting your time up.

Spend part of your time only on optimizing and monitoring. Download your revenue and costs from the previous day, plug them in to the tracker or your spreadsheet or whatever. Check the performance vs the goals for the campaigns (goal is pretty much the ROI you want). Deactivate any URL that has enough data to show it's not meeting the goal. URLs that don't have enough data but are costing money, you can just let them go, or temporarily deactivate them for now if the budget is tight. If you're testing a lot of URLs this might be best, but if it's just a few and your budget will survive, let them run.

Once done with that, stop worrying about them until the next day. Instead, launch more campaigns. Harry is a machine, and he's probably got lots of tools and outsourcing and methods and such to streamline his launches, thus getting a lot more done quicker than those of us still figuring it out. But you still just need to launch launch launch. If you launch 10 per day, you'll probably end up with at least a couple of good ones each week. Good enough that once you have a handful of them they'll fund all the further testing. Then a handful of those good ones will be really good, and they're what you'll make your living on.

I'm writing this as much for my own good as for others, heheh. I'm moving myself slowly out of theory and learning, and into the doing and earning.
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Good advice above.

Keep going, eventually you're going to hit a really big one that will pay for all your testing.
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kevinkimes,

your advice makes a lot of sense. Thanks! It is difficult to get a feel for how much to launch versus tweak. How many urls to throw at a campaign, and all these things. But it'll work :-)
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