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Old 10-22-2010, 03:03 PM
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Default The Most Accurate Tracking for Conversions

I know there's the pixel and script coding...what I would like to know is what do you guys think is the best way to track the "buy conversions"?

Is getting the script installed in the "Thank You" page the best method? The thing I'm not really impressed about it is a script have to embedded in each offer by the affiliate manager. Additionally, TV, LeadImpact..etc got their own scripting code.

What's your wisdom on this one guys?

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Old 10-22-2010, 03:06 PM
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most networks have pixel placement now. so for example with cpvlab, i generate a pixel for my campaign and place the pixel on the offer conversion page through the network interface and i'm done. is that what you're looking for?

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cpvlab takes care of this all with one generic pixel per offer no need to use the cpvnetwork pixels at all

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Ok, that's what I need to know too. Thanks 'Pa Bear.

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np bud.

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I was thinking about cpvlab yesterday and was wondering why we're so concerned with networks knowing our stuff. I know some have been ripped off and I'm sure that some networks will do it still today, (there's slimeballs everywhere). But using that program is it really protecting our campaigns?

If I find a lander doing spying on say TV, I can just use http headers to find out all the hops and see the offer that they're promoting. So I know the url they bid on, I know if they direct linked or used a landing page and I know which offer they promoted exactly.

So I guess my question is, is cpvlab just for consolidating data and trying to hide stuff from networks? I mean I can place the traffic vance pixel on the offer landing page with most networks manually. So it seems I'm adding another layer that may not be worth the effort.

I'm not saying cpvlab isn't a great script. I'm sure it is. I'm just discussing why we even use scripts like that in general.

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Old 10-22-2010, 08:03 PM
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i'll start with this.... you'll save 1 BILLION hours using cpvlab. you place one pixel per offer and that's it (no matter how many cpvnetworks you're running traffic from).

as for networks, why would you show them or anyone for that matter, anything? i've NEVER shown any network any data and why would i? i almost went to court with CJ.com over THEM trying to screw ME and the ONLY thing that saved me was THEM not having ANY information on ME. i wasn't doing anything wrong, but as they say "anything you say, can be used against you" and believe you me they tried. don't give out any information you don't have to is my motto. i've lived by it for 3 years as a full-time affiliate marketer. lab does a great job at handling that side of things, but is far from it's "main" purpose.

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as far as spying, i personally don't do it, but i know it's common. lab is one layer of protection against network spies, but certainly isn't a 100% spyproof of course and that was never it's aim.

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also, i'lll go on the record and say that network spying is the norm and not the exception. just a fact. i speak to way to many insiders these days. it's not even a secret really. shoot, i get network owners and AM's asking me to run cpv campaigns for THEM all the time. what i mean by this is networks COMMONLY run offers internally and they are HUNGRY for cpv knowledge and or help (not that they're giving me any inside info personally). of course it's just natural for a network to spy these days, i don't even think twice about - i'm fine with it frankly - cause i know it happens ALL the time - you have to be "ok" with it as a pub.

they see 100000 subid's unmasked for ashsdfsd.com making the network $43,000 a day and they're not gonna take a peek? cmon man it's common, just protect your business the best you can is my advice.

i guess i just feel like the more a pub is prepared for what at least i know to be the truth, the better off they will be in the long run.

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What I meant was, we don't have to use subids at all.

We can just use the traffic sources pixel on the offers landing page.

That means no subids are passed, just a credit for the sale and the network would not see your targets at all.

I guess I need to be ripped off to change my mind about this, but I cannot accept that network owners allow this. I believe one or two rogue affiliate managers got greedy and started this crap and it has affected everyone now.
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