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Old 11-14-2010, 12:14 AM
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With PPC, the first thing I do when I think of targeting a keyword on a serp, or a webpage on the content network, is to look at the websites that are already advertising there. I can't imagine not doing that.

And yet I get the impression that many people are advertising without first looking at the competition with cpv.

Am I mistaken? Why not do research? Isn't it worth it to get a beater computer and install adware? Any posts or websites that talk about this?
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Old 11-14-2010, 04:56 AM
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Agreed Joel but some don't have that. I did install one on my old desktop and that took a shit dive after about a month. Good thing it was a crappy old one but I whipped it clean.
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I fall under the category of not having a beat up computer to install adware on, I did find my brothers reallly old laptop, but when he realized I was coming to get it, he thought he might start using it again, ...typical lol.

Though you gave me an idea, I wonder if I could install adware on a server, then sell proxys to use the server, then people could use something like FoxyProxy to select to use the proxy that re-routes through the infected server with a SSH tunnel when they are browsing, would they then be delivered the popup? Might be worth investigating, could be an idea for a business to CPV marketers who don't have old computers to infect, plus you will still get the speed of an up-to-date server? Wonder what the maintainence cost would be lol
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Come on guys, how hard can it be to locate an obsolete laptop or PC that's going cheap? After all we're paying $300 for cpvlab, $100/month for hosting. This is a very minor expense in comparison. I'm someone who travels back and forth between two countries, which is a huge hassle for this (customs limits the computers you can take into a country without paying extra). For the rest of you guys, this is nothing.

Here's one for $32. http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Satellit...item4aa5346011

Also, I just wanted to make sure that these programs install themselves for all users of a machine--it wouldn't be possible to create a new windows login and install it there? No way of installing it on an external HD?

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Though you gave me an idea, I wonder if I could install adware on a server, then sell proxys to use the server, then people could use something like FoxyProxy to select to use the proxy that re-routes through the infected server with a SSH tunnel when they are browsing, would they then be delivered the popup? Might be worth investigating, could be an idea for a business to CPV marketers who don't have old computers to infect, plus you will still get the speed of an up-to-date server? Wonder what the maintainence cost would be lol
That's what I was assuming someone somewhere had set up. Of course they have services like browser cam for checking website compatibility on different browsers and platforms, so technically it shouldn't be too difficult.
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OK guys, I googled "install gamevance" and saw this interesting idea:

Run it in a virtual machine. This way you can just load virtual machine from same computer you usually use anytime you wanna do some research to see what people are advertising and it wont mess anything up. If you want to get rid of it just delete VM or roll it back to snapshot before you installed it.

Would this work?

Have to travel for all of next week and won't be able to get on computer, so I'm researching all this stuff rather than launching campaigns I won't be able to monitor.
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Wait...I just had a paradigm shift...

If cpv is going to be a major activity, wouldn't I want to see as many pops as I can? Shouldn't I be happy to install this on my regular machine? (I have two laptops anyway, one for major stuff and a netbook.)

Thoughts?
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Shouldn't I be happy to install this on my regular machine?
One of the gurus (his name escapes me at the moment) says to install the adware on your work computer so you can see as many ads as possible.

I have adware on one of my laptop computers. I don't use it all the time, but I use it enough

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Aaron, learned much from having it on there? Any tricks for making sure you're seeing all the ads shown on a particular page?
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I have it on a virtual machine on my regular computer.

Works fine for me.

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Originally Posted by cpvcoach View Post
I have it on a virtual machine on my regular computer.

Works fine for me.

Been looking into this and sounds great, so if I install a virtual machine and install the adware through that, it won't affect my original installation?

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